"I will be positioned in this office by 2027," Starmer stated, noting that if our conversation was successful, he might invite us into Downing Street for a follow-up talk in 2026.
For a PM, there's rarely ever downtime for prime ministers. In the hour before our chat started, the PM had been on the phone with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky and attempting to understand what on earth had occurred in Venezuela, where his big friend, US President Donald Trump, had recently launched a strike against and detained its leader, Nicolás Maduro.
Once our interview, which was much longer than usual, had finished, Maduro had been indicted in New York.
As the year starts, the Prime Minister appears to have had a kind of a reboot. Perhaps even just some a rest with his family at Chequers, the prime minister's official country residence.
That certainly seemed to have left him in improved morale than at the saggy end of 2025, a terrible year politically for him.
But are he and his allies kidding themselves if they think his standing are set to improve?
The uncomfortable truth for the prime minister is that numerous of his colleagues believe he's ineffective at his job. Several of them would sooner take a risk and remove him sooner rather than later.
However Sir Keir was rejecting the idea in the interview on Saturday morning.
Repeatedly he stated he'd be "judged at the next election", arguing nobody would remove his electoral mandate from him – despite the fact that the most effective strategy of preventing Nigel Farage and Reform UK reaching No 10 could be for Labour to replace its leader.
"We are in the battle of our lifetime and I plan to guide the party," he said.
The problem for the prime minister is that he will be scrutinised well ahead of then – in a major set of elections in May across the UK. He attempted to contend, maybe excessively, that they are concerning who runs local authorities, and who runs the governments in Holyrood or Cardiff – and unrelated to Westminster.
Accurate – in part. But although he may be reluctant to acknowledge it, No 10 will be held accountable by those elections too.
Despite this, Sir Keir stating that there were no circumstances under which he would walk away, should a his colleagues contested his leadership for the job, should those elections be catastrophic for Labour.
He tried to rationalise his low poll ratings by saying the voters was naturally anxious for things to change. He sought to assure the interviewer, and the nation, that the coming months would be distinct.
The economy would improve in the face of rising unemployment, he said, when strategies the administration put in place during their first turbulent year began to show results.
His central point is that in 2026 the country will "turn the corner".
The PM may have spoken with renewed vitality than observed from him for a some time – less tense, maybe, with a longer slot to talk.
However, in spite of encountering calls from many directions for a more decisive approach, with much more political direction, more urgency, more speed and more urgency, his explanations were well-known ones.
Given that he is in such significant political trouble, should he consider a change of tack?
No government, and certainly not one that has been struggling in the polls for many months, gets everything its as planned.
Sir Keir's challenges are not only because government is difficult, but because he and his team have faltered, including in the recent past.
The prime minister admitted that he was sorry for saying he was "pleased" to see the return of the Egyptian-British activist Alaa Abd El Fattah to the UK after an outcry when comments he'd made in the past – including calls for Zionists and police to be killed – resurfaced.
Starmer attributed it to "procedures" for not realising what the activist had said before – a more diplomatic way of saying not my fault.
And he is inviting clear political risks as the year progresses. His friendship with the US president entails a new risk after Trump's strikes on Venezuela.
Having interviewed Sir Keir Starmer, a former human rights lawyer who was against the war in Iraq, over many years, the thought he would be at ease with these events seems unlikely.
He asserted he was a "longtime advocate of international law" but we "simply haven't got the complete details at the moment".
Opponents wanted him to criticise the action prior to we spoke. And the administration is expected to face increased demands to give an definitive view in Parliament in the coming days.
There has also always been growing tension in the Labour party to reverse or renegotiate some of the consequences of Brexit.
Sir Keir denies he's doing that, but his new more concrete plan to move closer with the European trading bloc – the vast economic European trading zone – will likely elicit howls that he is breaking his pledge never to try to reverse the choices that flowed from Brexit.
A commitment to integrate into more of the single market will delight a faction on his side of the party, but it is simple material for Reform and the Conservatives to
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